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Post  Steven Rausch on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:00 am

Ladies and gentlemen, do not panic, but Carnage in Ring's 48th season is nearly over. We are down to just one more week, just two more shows for this magnificent roster to duke it out and vie for position heading into Season 49, and with it, Extreme Rewards VI. Conveniently enough, this was the week that CiR GM Adam Harvey chose to begin qualifying matches for Extreme Rewards' Carnage Ladder match. You know, the one where the winner gets an any-time, anywhere contract to cash in for a shot at the CiR World Heavyweight Championship? The one that's produced a world champion in 67% of its winners? The one responsible for our current world champion? Yeah, that one... That said, it's time for the CiR Top Ten! And without spoiling anything off the jump, who'd be interested in seeing the record for individual votes earned in a week shattered? Because that might have happened!

Votes for the Season 48 postseason are due by 11:59 PM (EST), on Sunday, 9/26/2017. Remember to PM @CiR Top Ten on these forums to have your votes counted! As a recap: Each week of each CiR season, these rankings will be updated based on match performance and member voting. The following list shows all match activity accounted for starting on 8/22/2017. It will continue through the Season 49 finale, at which point all current standings will reset as we begin another PPV cycle.

Please note: as a CiR member, you have ten points to use on your votes. Put all ten on one person, spread them out across ten people, or do anything in between. Just don't vote for yourself!

And if you need a refresher on how points are registered from match results and title changes, check this out.

CiR Top Ten - September 18th, 2017



1.) Lottie Kelly (^^^)                     (45 Points)


Just to say it quickly, Lottie Kelly lost to General Freedom on Bloodshed this week. So naturally, she leapfrogged CiR Heavyweight Champion Jimmy James for sole possession of the top of the Cir Top Ten leaderboard. Everything makes sense. On a serious note, though, Ms. Kelly is doing amazing things right now, and the fans are rewarding her. This week alone, she registered 18 votes. 18! For those keeping track at home,
that has officially broken the single-week record for votes earned. Let it be officially said: Lottie Kelly does not need to win to be the best. That's a scary thought.


2.) Jimmy James (vvv)                  (42 Points)


Through no fault of his own, Jimmy James slips a spot in this week's ranking. He did everything right this week, though, as he defeated Steven Rausch in Bloodshed's main event. To be even more specific, he beat Rausch clean. No eye rakes, no distractions, and no foreign objects. No, Jimmy put Rausch down simply with a well-timed Heel Turn. It looks as though - despite the momentary dip in the standings - Jimmy is going to become a dominant force heading into Season 49. Is King watching?

3.) Steven Why (^^^)                    (26 Points)


Last week's main event - where Steven Why and Steven Rausch teamed up to defeat the Bloodshed Champion Shane Brady and one half of the CiR Tag Team Champions Bayou Gator - looks like it could be one of those "remember when" matches down the road. In its immediate aftermath, we've seen Steven Rausch better his resumé right away, and now we've seen Steven Why declare The Family - namely Shane Brady - his own personal public enemy number one. A solo win over Bayou Gator via the Why-ion Sault gets this ball rolling. Now, what comes next?

4.) Victor Machado                  (23 Points)


One of the more charismatic newcomers in CiR, Machado maintains fourth place in this week's CiR Top Ten. While holding steady in the rankings' top five is a good thing, Machado has to be upset at watching his career's potential first big break slip through his fingers. On Infamy, he and Big Boss Rosario fought to a double countout in a Carnage Ladder qualifying match, meaning that neither man will actually participate in the big match at Extreme Rewards. That's gotta be frustrating.

5.) Brother Thelonius (vvv)                   (21 Points)


The freefall continues, as the universe seems to finally have remembered that this space is reserved for those who've earned a spot.

5.) Steven Rausch (^^^)                     (21 Points)


Sneaking into a tie for fifth place this week is Steven Rausch, and man has his season ever shifted over the past week? As mentioned above, Steven did indeed lose to Jimmy James in Bloodshed's main event. Though a loss to the CiR World Heavyweight Champion in front of everyone is hardly a feel-good moment, Steven's season of not being booked is officially over. For since beating The Family with Steven Why last week, Steven has had two matches. The loss to Jimmy is well-noted, but its his victory over the debuting Bobby Gruesome on Infamy that could be something of a career-changer: Steven Rausch is officially the first competitor to qualify for the Carnage Ladder Match at Extreme Rewards VI. Considering that Jimmy is only the world champion right now because of his victory in the last Carnage Ladder Match, we're hoping Rausch took notes.

7.) General Freedom (^^^)                   (20 Points)

Still waiting to truly establish himself in the ring, General Freedom had a huge victory over Lottie Kelly on Bloodshed this week. Don't look now, but while popularity seems to emanate from all of CiR's new talent, General Freedom seems to be the one who can consistently bring it in the squared circle.

8.) King (vvv)                      (19 Points)

If you couldn't so much as breathe on the other half of your career's best opportunity to date before your showdown at the end of next season, what would you do? If you answered "I'd beat the crud out of Shane Brady on live TV," then you must be King! That's exactly what CiR's regent supreme did on Infamy this week, and it looks like this is how he'll be biding his time from here until Extreme Rewards VI.

9.) Vahn                      (14 Points)


The Double Down Champion got a week of rest, as Vahn had no matches to speak of. His impressive performances of weeks past and his increasing popularity therein did earn him his fair share of the fan vote this week, though, so he'll happily hold down the ninth spot in this week's ranking.

10.) Shane Brady (vvv)                    (13 Points)


Finally, the Bloodshed Champion rounds out the countdown this week. His slide continues, despite The Family technically getting a win this week (we see you, Emelie Castillo). Brady turned a loss in last week's Bloodshed's main event into a loss on Infamy to King, something of an inverse of their showdown from Survive and Conquer. If Brady doesn't break the glass and hit the emergency button soon, this schneid could cause irreversible damage to his burgeoning career.



Those Receiving Votes: Lottie Kelly (18 ), General Freedom (8 ), Steven Why (6), Steven Rausch (6), Mister N (5), Victor Machado (4), Jimmy James (3), Vahn (3), King (2), Blake Dawson (2), Tom Midas (1), Emelie Castillo (1), Bobby Gruesome (1)

CiR All-Time Top 20

1.) Chris Jackson                             710 Points
2.) Moberz                                      557 Points
3.) The Personification                    453 Points
4.) King                                         421 Points
5.) John Smith / Mr. Nice Guy         400 Points
6.) King Edge                                 377 Points
7.) Begbie                                      356 Points
8.) Jimmy James                            274 Points
9.) Big Boss Guin                           258 Points
10.) GT                                          224 Points
11.) Jeff Monson                            220 Points
12.) Escharid                                 214 Points
13.) Nadia Wolinski                        203 Points
14.) Bobo the Clownkiller                202 Points
15.) Axel Crow                               199 Points
16.) The Almighty Xandor               196 Points
17.) Diablos                                  172 Points
18.) Alex Scott                               164 Points
19.) Dave Spartacus                       163 Points
19.) Mehmet de la Mer                    163 Points
19.) Steven Why                             163 Points

CiR Top Ten Champions

Seasons 46-47: Shane Brady          75 Points          5/7/2017 - 8/14/2017


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Re: CiR Top Ten

Post  Kaleb Konnely on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:18 am

Using all 10 of my votes - +10 Repo Man

Vote for Repo Man guys! We gotta get him to Spot #9! He is at 15 points at the moment! We just need +10 more to get him to Spot #9 in The CiR Top Ten! COME ON make your votes count!


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Re: CiR Top Ten

Post  Guest on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:30 am

Bitch.

10 points to King.

And his 10 points go to me, refer to CiR chat. Razz
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Post  Terry Fying on Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:09 am

+ 10 points to Old Mags!
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Post  Guest on Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:58 am

Just got off the phone from Grandma Mags and Grandpa Repo. They're going to give me 10 points each. She also told me Terry reconsidered and give me those points.

So you can add another 30 for Johnny please, Rauschy.
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Post  Tom Midas on Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:26 pm

+10 to j0 i suppose... even though i like my ranking Razz
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Post  Jimmy James on Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:49 pm

+4 to Kelly, +3 to Hitman and Tank each.
All three say give their +10 to me. Razz
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Post  Kaleb Konnely on Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:38 pm

Why wrote:+10 to j0 i suppose... even though i like my ranking Razz

Gotta PM @CIR Top Ten

Plus! DOn't waste your +10! use it on someone that actually matters like Repo Man! We gotta get him on the board!
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Post  King Edge on Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:45 pm

How can the first ever person to beat Carnage Incarnate for the Carnage Heavyweight Championship and longest reigning champion not be on the list?

#robbed

Haha  Razz
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Post  Steven Rausch on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:30 pm

For those who have PMed @CiR Top Ten with their votes, thanks a bunch! I'm really happy with how much you guys are putting into this, even if we all just really want to see Repo crack the Top Ten and Ben blinked out of history. I'm going to accept votes over there through Saturday - like I will during a real season - and then repost these rankings with the date changed to reflect the week and everyone's votes added, just so you all see the process. (During the season, this is also when I will add match-based points from that day's show.)

As a few of you have said, a lot of these rankings seem strange. Where's King Edge? Where's Kaleb? Where's friggin' Begbie? They're all on my whole list, but you have to consider when I started this project. As far as it's concerned, history began at the beginning of Season 36. Yes, past Rumble wins, MITB wins, and Triple Crown and Grand Slam champions were all recognized. Those milestones are easy enough to track thanks to this well-organized forum. But for someone like King Edge who has never won a rumble or briefcase and is oh-so-close to hitting a Triple Crown or Grand Slam, I couldn't go back and tabulate all of his matches and title victories and defenses... It'd take forever to give him his true due and Moberz and I agreed we wanted to see this project go live sooner than later. I'm already a full season late and I do tend to fear for my life when I displease the Mob man...

That said, throughout this upcoming season, we'll probably still have Dark Screamer and GT on the board. But once this season ends and next season begins, I'll have reason to show two boards every week: current season and all-time. The all-time will continuously be added to, but the current-season board will get reset to zeroes after every season finale. I think you'll all be a lot happier when you see them side by side.

Now I have two questions for you:

1.) Do you think it's better to reset the "current-season" rankings every season, or should I reset only after PPVs so that whole feuds can be properly reflected in the rankings?

2.) For guys like @King Edge and @King, would it really make you happy to see the all-time power rankings eventually reflective of every show we have access to through the archives? It'll take a loooong time, but it's a project I could work on during the offseason between however many seasons it takes to complete. If there's enough popular support behind it, I could start soon. But I will not be working on it during the season. Just gotta throw that out there.
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Re: CiR Top Ten

Post  King Edge on Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:04 pm

Oh no dude, don't give yourself anymore work. It is great what you are doing already.

I was just winding you up Wink
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Post  King on Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:18 am

We are just pulling your leg raushy. This list is really good.

Though if you want some real feedback, take this as simple suggestions:
1. Have different lists between voted and achieved points. This would give a better look at how the CiR members thinks.

2. If you're going through history and picking up information like MitB and CR. Maybe go through the title trophy cabinet and gives points there? You can easily pick up stats like title victory, weeks held the title, same thing about world title. And PPV appearances from the list I posted.
*If you need help I could help you with this suggestion*

That are just suggestions.
Rausch, this list is really good. Thank you for your hard work mate.
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Post  Rapper Cobalt on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:00 pm

Dash is in the top 10? How the fuck did that happen? lol

As for your questions.

1.) Do you think it's better to reset the "current-season" rankings every season, or should I reset only after PPVs so that whole feuds can be properly reflected in the rankings? - I think they should be reset every 2 seasons after the ppv.

2.) For guys like @King Edge and @King, would it really make you happy to see the all-time power rankings eventually reflective of every show we have access to through the archives? It'll take a loooong time, but it's a project I could work on during the offseason between however many seasons it takes to complete. If there's enough popular support behind it, I could start soon. But I will not be working on it during the season. Just gotta throw that out there. - That's too much work for a single person, pretty hard to do, when you add that you still have to follow on with the current season, be an active contributor and then try and go through the archives. Too much for one man, even if that man happens to be Rausch.

P.s. - Sent in my votes to "Top Ten" dude.
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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:06 pm

When you find out, tell me how Ben managed to get himself on that list too.

By the way I'm giving out BJ's for points.

I'm kidding.

I'm giving out BJ's for free.
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Post  Rapper Cobalt on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:07 pm

Johnny Zero wrote:When you find out, tell me how Ben managed to get himself on that list too.

By the way I'm giving out BJ's for points.

I'm kidding.

I'm giving out BJ's for free.

Wrong again, you have to pay people so you could give them BJ's
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Post  Rapper Cobalt on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:08 pm

Rapper Cobalt wrote:
Johnny Zero wrote:When you find out, tell me how Ben managed to get himself on that list too.

By the way I'm giving out BJ's for points.

I'm kidding.

I'm giving out BJ's for free.

Wrong again, you have to pay people so you could give them BJ's Very Happy
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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:10 pm

I owe you billions of dollars by that logic then!
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Post  Moberz on Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:12 pm

Do I think it's worthwhile going through every single show, to account for all the matches we've done and their results and tally them into the point system? Honestly No. The best thing to do would be to take the PPV Show Archive List, King's PPV appearance List, and the trophy cabinet title holders list and use those as the guiding to giving out old points. Mainly focusing on Title Reigns in terms of number and duration, as well as PPV matches and results. This can also give some info. on title defences ect.
We have all the links for those three things readily available and open to use, so it would not be implausable for one person to go through the ppv history and count up who won what matches, if they were for titles, ect, and then create a point tally. Someone else to take the title history list, and count up the number of weeks people held certain belts, create a total, and then combine those totals with the current overall totals. Heck, the title history part can even be divided further for people to work on individual titles. We have the material avaliable, so if people are interested, and you have the time and man-power I won't have issue with this.
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Post  Steven Rausch on Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:32 am

Alright, so I ran with @King's suggestion and have removed the green vote addenda from the end of each person's designated row and instead replaced them with a separate "Those Receiving Votes" section at the bottom of the rankings. This should make it easier to see just who's earning votes every week before those points are added to the list.

Thanks to @Rapper Cobalt for saying he feels the "current season" rankings should be reset only after each PPV, meaning after every other season by our current booking strategy.

And as for the second question I asked - regarding total history involved with this project - I actually started it just to see how involved it would be and was pleasantly surprised it won't take anywhere near as long as I anticipated to tabulate this fed's entire recorded history in terms of match-based points. Yesterday, I went from the midway point of season 4 (the first show we can access through TWG) all the way through season 10 and recorded everything; it took a while, but not nearly as long as I presumed. As long as nobody out there specifically doesn't want me to figure out just how many matches John Paul won here in CiR, I'm going to keep up with it and get you some real, historically accurate rankings by the season premiere.

If it all works out, we can start the season with a richly detailed "all-time list" and a more recent "current season" list that we have right now. Sound good, buds?
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Post  Kaleb Konnely on Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:15 am

therausch09 wrote:Alright, so I ran with @King's suggestion and have removed the green vote addenda from the end of each person's designated row and instead replaced them with a separate "Those Receiving Votes" section at the bottom of the rankings. This should make it easier to see just who's earning votes every week before those points are added to the list.

Thanks to @Rapper Cobalt for saying he feels the "current season" rankings should be reset only after each PPV, meaning after every other season by our current booking strategy.

And as for the second question I asked - regarding total history involved with this project - I actually started it just to see how involved it would be and was pleasantly surprised it won't take anywhere near as long as I anticipated to tabulate this fed's entire recorded history in terms of match-based points. Yesterday, I went from the midway point of season 4 (the first show we can access through TWG) all the way through season 10 and recorded everything; it took a while, but not nearly as long as I presumed. As long as nobody out there specifically doesn't want me to figure out just how many matches John Paul won here in CiR, I'm going to keep up with it and get you some real, historically accurate rankings by the season premiere.

If it all works out, we can start the season with a richly detailed "all-time list" and a more recent "current season" list that we have right now. Sound good, buds?

I swear to fucking god, Repo Man better be up there in the fucking records.
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Post  Rapper Cobalt on Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:06 am

therausch09 wrote:Alright, so I ran with @King's suggestion and have removed the green vote addenda from the end of each person's designated row and instead replaced them with a separate "Those Receiving Votes" section at the bottom of the rankings. This should make it easier to see just who's earning votes every week before those points are added to the list.

Thanks to @Rapper Cobalt for saying he feels the "current season" rankings should be reset only after each PPV, meaning after every other season by our current booking strategy.

And as for the second question I asked - regarding total history involved with this project - I actually started it just to see how involved it would be and was pleasantly surprised it won't take anywhere near as long as I anticipated to tabulate this fed's entire recorded history in terms of match-based points. Yesterday, I went from the midway point of season 4 (the first show we can access through TWG) all the way through season 10 and recorded everything; it took a while, but not nearly as long as I presumed. As long as nobody out there specifically doesn't want me to figure out just how many matches John Paul won here in CiR, I'm going to keep up with it and get you some real, historically accurate rankings by the season premiere.

If it all works out, we can start the season with a richly detailed "all-time list" and a more recent "current season" list that we have right now. Sound good, buds?

Hey, regarding question Nr. 2, if it really doesn't take that much time then by all means go for it. I was kinda against it only because of your own personal time. If you can do it then of course it would be fun for me, as well as everyone else to read through the long history of Cir in a simple manner. I just think the "all-time list" would need to be a bit larger than the 10 best, because there's been so many amazing stars here in CiR. A lot of deserving people would be left out. Just my opinion.
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Post  Steven Rausch on Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:59 pm

Updated with the results of your votes, as well as the first ever All-Time Top 20. Figured now was as good a time as any to let @ChrisJackson know he truly is going out on top. Smile
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Post  Rapper Cobalt on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:12 pm

therausch09 wrote:Updated with the results of your votes, as well as the first ever All-Time Top 20. Figured now was as good a time as any to let @ChrisJackson know he truly is going out on top. Smile

It's nice to know I'm in the CiR All Time Top 20. Thanks Rausch, these are really fun to check out. Keep up the good work mate.
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Post  ChrisJackson on Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:02 am

Nice to know I left a quantifiable legacy behind. I truly set the bar pretty high. Cool
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Re: CiR Top Ten

Post  Steven Rausch on Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:30 am

Updated to include the results of the first Bloodshed of the season. Cast your votes for Week Two by Sunday, July 5th. PM them to @CiR Top Ten and speak your minds!
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